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It is not even close to any logic. Perception is the limited source of knowledge. As you say, those people need to have holy spirit for interpreting, this is nothing more than free chatting sites online in india and coaxing. Having holy spirit by some few people means only a bunch of people can interpret the bible.

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Conclusion- Bible is imperfect, it was not created by God.

If he created the imperfect Bible, He will be called imperfect. He understands by His essence, and understands Himself perfectly. His God is bodiless because bodies have parts. There is no composition in his God. Earlier I concluded with cause-effect reasoning that God is said to be bodiless, he cannot work on matter to produce the world.

You said God was irrational. His reasoning is same as the reasoning of Indian nyayic theism. According to him, this world is product of creator God. So what is remained in this debate? If you call only perceivable things free chatting sites online in india, then you have got a problem because you shouldn't be using a device that sends non-perceivable signals through the air.

You seem to be bemused about theism, atheism and agnostic.

He was an agnoisitc theist. When you know there is a God but you cannot know any lithuanian sex his characteristics, is agnosticism.

His God is sitew, perfect and merciful but human cannot know those attributes. He is omnipotence, united, eternal, all-powerful and perfect but we cannot have exact knowledge of God. We can know those attributes with universal things.

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This theory of Aquinas is not contradictory to theism. Also he elaborates bodiless God and cause-effect reasoning for knowing him by humans. I argument-ed against it earlier and some other posts in same thread. The argument against his god can be given by an other way too- An objection on his omnipotence I raised when you asked how relation of houses free chatting sites online in india God comes into.

Free chatting sites online in india is held to be one on the ground that, if there were many gods they would act with different plans and purposes, and consequently a harmonious world, as we have, free chatting sites online in india have been possible. But this argument aint sound, pussy in Gilbert to fuck we observe that many human beings like masons and even lower animals like ants and bees act together harmoniously to build objects like palaces, ant-hills and hives.

God again is said free chatting sites online in india be eternally perfect. But eternal perfection is a meaningless epither. Perfection is only a removal of imperfection and it is meaningless to call a being perfect who was never imperfect. I elaborate agnostic atheism. Theism is a belief that God exists, it can be best understood something is true or false, as a preposition. The above definitions were old ones. Later some philosophers and non-philosophers claimed that Atheism should not be defined as preposition.

It should be defined as psychological state. For more, you can check this Stanford university article - https: Develish device eh? There is not any instrument made for perception or measuring the God.

However a device signals can be gay chat local by an equipment. If you only allow measurable things the focus of science and say anything that cannot be measured is not real, then you are an atheist. If you escorts college park with the perceivable things and simply say you cannot perceive the origin of the universe and thus you don't know, you are agnostic.

There will be 7 probabilities not only four take the idea of a spectrum of probabilities seriously, and place human judgments about the existence of God along it, between two extremes of opposite certainty. The spectrum is continuous, but it can be represented by the following seven milestones along the way. An example of agnostic atheist- 'A friend, who was brought up a Jew and still observes the sabbath and other Jewish customs out of loyalty woman seeking casual sex Buhl his heritage, describes himself as a 'tooth fairy agnostic'.

He regards God as no more probable than the tooth fairy. You can't disprove either hypothesis, and both are equally improbable. He is an a-theist to exactly the same large extent that he is an a-fairyist.

And agnostic about both, to the same small extent. You have no rational answer. That is the point of the argument I. And the answer God is not more irrational than the other irrational answer.

If "the world" was the answer, then this world that you say is the reason for its own existence would be irrational.

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I elaborated naturalism or materialism theory after lnline two sentences. I would not reiterate for. Reiterating anything is waste of time. The answer has already be given, when you will reply on that I will reply you ahead. It could be more logical when you could argument against how theory was logical. Free chatting sites online in india fact the answer God could actually be said to be more rational because it has the advantage, that if you say "God" is the reason, then the world would be rational in.

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This is against cosmological argument. You propably don't know, but atheism in the form of communism has brought much more cruelty and fear.

In fact communism had many times the number of victims that nazi germany did. Nazism never affected China and India. It affected jew and polish region more than soviet union as. It effected the most populous countries China and India.

In an incident protestants were too much than other protestants. Therefore, no. Of death in second incident.

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Science was developed in catholic universities. Science is not anti-christian. Also "science" just like IQ is not an argument. A christian has to frse his religion until 18 because his parents told him to do so. He has not been granted to choose the religion before this age.

Some universities might be full of those students. IQ was never an casual Hook Ups PA Cochranton 16314. When did I ever say IQ was an argument. Many of theists assume atheists have never read bible or any philosopher's indai. Unlike theism, atheism is never based on instincts.

They have free chatting sites online in india above it. Coming to your question, I can even write an essay on St. Thomas Aquinus. I studied western and Indian philosophy 3 years ago. I'm recalling it: Summa Theologica was work of Aquinus. He elaborated five oline for the existence of God in his work. Also, writing St. Actually most atheists at least in the west have no philosophical free chatting sites online in india, they are normal people just like those who go to church often don't really understand theology.

But I assume it is different iin india assuming that is where you are.

I wonder if those numbers would still be the same if everyone had understood these things But yeah, it is no proof. It does not make any sense because you have just a mindset. I'm just wondering if it would be different, that's all. I mean education does influence opinion: Lets assume god created the universe according to bible's genesis, God needed 6 days to create the universe but he did rest on 7th day.

What kind of almighty creator needs rest? One more thing, a day is the time needed for Earth to complete one rotation on its axis.

So how days passed if Earth and Sun were not created free chatting sites online in india How did he measured this time? Why would you even assume, that I'd sexy lady searching fucking dating lonely horney women the bible literally?

That indeed would be a lack of intelligence sorry to everyone who does. Here you are being hypocrite. Why should we assume universe without god's existence? An assumption is called supposition or Guess. An intelligent man would always write both guesses. I don't understand why you mention this.

I free chatting sites online in india saying that taking the bible literally in this sense assuming God created the world in 7 earth days would be a lack of intelligence, or maybe a lazyness of thinking, on my part, since taking it literally in this sense is already contradictory because of the existence of two contradicting generation stories in Genesis 1 and Genesis 2.

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Genesis actually onlinne two accounts of how the earth was created see my post for further info. I saw your post about genesis but it couldn't answer my questions. He completed his work in free chatting sites online in india days and did rest for one day. What kind of rest did the almighty creator want?

Your genesis was unable to elaborate anything about planets.

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How did he count 7 days without knowing anything about day and night? What I free chatting sites online in india by not reading Genesis literally is that I don't take the 7 days to be literal days of any kind. I take these as symbolic. For example the fact, that the first thing that God creates is light.

This doesn't make any sense from a scientific viewpoint, and the people who lived back then had the same IQ level as us if when does a man mature emotionally believe the scientific consensus on human development. It must have been obvious even to them, that the sun is in fact the origin of light. Actually there are enough ancient texts that free chatting sites online in india that people did in fact understand.

So why in the world would God create light before the sun or the stars? The answer is, that this is the light of reason, of understanding, of truth. If you want to understand where I'm coming from I recommend Dr. Jordan Peterson's lecturs on the psychological significance of the bible. This in turn cloud 9 massage austin, that also the other days are to be understand symbolically.

It shows how God ordered everything, not just the things he free chatting sites online in india but also the time. All of Genesis speaks about God's relation to His creation and specifically His relation to us and our relation to Him and our relation to creation. God orders our life according to the order of days.

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This is what it is. The sabbath is the holy day, it is the day of service to the Lord. It is on this day, that chattkng pray most, and that we rest.

And God does enjoy this love we bring Him on the seventh day. And if onilne enjoy something you can really relax. So as you can see, all of Genesis is really about the relationship between God and us.

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But what reason does the whole chain have? There is no rational answer to this question. This is the point of the whole argument.

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